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 Post subject: Re: New Album Speculations Thread
PostPosted: 13 Jul 2010, 10:39 
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In a way I would love for this to be the final enigma album and for him to start a new series under a different name. But c'mon, its enigma. What sounds better than that? But with enigma he probably feels pressured to keep the enigma sound with each album and if he were to make a different project it would give him the musical ceativeness to do great new things and a new sound and music like the beginning on enigma was.lol. I'm just really OCD and if the first chapter was 4 albums then the second one needs to be as well.lol. And I agree that the seven lives many faces interview wasn't that great.


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PostPosted: 14 Jul 2010, 01:00 
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Ilove the Entity of every album that,s why named Enigma :greengrin: ohmy ino,t know about 8 album being last with recording company! but i dought it. he,s got a new studio :spam:


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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2010, 05:31 
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Yeah, if he does more than 8 he needs to start a new chapter.lol. That way there can be a new greatest hits and he can get the most of the new studio. And that would make 3 chapters, like a trilogy.lol. But I really have my doubts and I really do think the 8th will be the last. I don't even see physical cd's being around for the next 2 years.lol. Even if he did get the new studio, maybe he just got it for this last album. That way it will be the best and final closing. But who knows. And he can always use Merlin if he was to create a new project.


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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2010, 19:16 
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People have been talking about the "final Enigma album" since E3 and here we are waiting for E8. Enigma might not sell as much as it did before but it's till going strong world wide so if Cretu would like to renew his contract with Virgin I think they might consider it.

With a new studio equipment and stuff, I dunno much about it but with a new thingie I think he might surprise us yet again.

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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2010, 20:31 
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About E8...I don't believe it is the final Enigma album. First of all, there is a new studio, which means the beginning of new experiments. Then, there is this thing that Mr. Cretu said it a few times in his interviews, that "there are still a few more Enigma albums waiting to be released". Thirdly, number 9, for instance, has a greater significance than number 8, so why stop at 8? ;) And last, contracts can be renewed, it happened before and it can happen again.
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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2010, 21:11 
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new studio doesnt mean anything for me

he had his new A.R.T. for Voyageur but it was the only album he recorded there in new house's studio. then he got Alchemist and did AP and What about us, and E7 later.
Merlin can be also a one album design with a project to produce more of them for sale

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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2010, 00:30 
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Child-of-the-Stars wrote:
About E8...I don't believe it is the final Enigma album. First of all, there is a new studio, which means the beginning of new experiments. Then, there is this thing that Mr. Cretu said it a few times in his interviews, that "there are still a few more Enigma albums waiting to be released". Thirdly, number 9, for instance, has a greater significance than number 8, so why stop at 8? ;) And last, contracts can be renewed, it happened before and it can happen again.
I rest my case. :biggrin:


Hmm, I never really thought of it that way. That's logical. But what do you mean by 9? Like the planets or something? And I am still worried about the whole contract thing. In these days it doesn't matter how great you are musically. I am a huge madonna fan and at the moment she has no record label and she is a living legend in pop music. So its hard for me to believe. Not putting madonna and enigma in the same category or anything :)


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2010, 21:55 
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LoveProfusion15 wrote:
But what do you mean by 9? Like the planets or something?


Well, in many cultures, number 9 is the symbol of perfection. It is also considered to symbolize the balance of ideas, the harmony of the mind. Also, in Ancient Egipt it was a sacred number. And its symbolism used to be related to the number of the planets in the solar system (but it seems that nowadays scientists do not agree on that anymore). And since nothing about Enigma is arbitrary,... ;)
But only time will tell, we can only make assumptions.

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PostPosted: 17 Jul 2010, 10:56 
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Hi, I do not understand why you say that Enigma 8 is the end of the project!
Enigma Michael Cretu is, when will it end......Enigma Cretu, so you'll have a real end, but like any child, Enigma grows, evolves ...
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PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 06:39 
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So when does the child evolve and finally die? All good things come to an end. I just really can't wait for the new album. I wonder what the theme will be? Like I know the 7th one followed the 4th with the stong heavy basslines. And the 6th was so spacy and trancy.lol. I want something different and fresh that will make us question the 1st albums creativity.lol. Okay maybe not that great.


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PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 17:17 
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The child Enigma does not necessarily have to die to soon, not when it still has such a long way to go. I'm just curious which way it will take next. Personally, I'd love another album with a theme similar to that from A Posteriori.

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Omg Child-of-the-Stars I totally found a new friend. I myself agree with you about having it similar to A Posteriori. I have to say that its my 3rd fav album. I don't know why people criticize it or say its not that great. In my eyes the purpose of enigma is to be a solid, themed, and relaxed album. And a posteriori is all of that. But I think making a sequel to that would be interesting, like a more polished up version of a posteriori.


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Child-of-the-Stars wrote:
The child Enigma does not necessarily have to die to soon, not when it still has such a long way to go. I'm just curious which way it will take next. Personally, I'd love another album with a theme similar to that from A Posteriori.
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Omg Child-of-the-Stars I totally found a new friend. I myself agree with you about having it similar to A Posteriori. I have to say that its my 3rd fav album. I don't know why people criticize it or say its not that great. In my eyes the purpose of enigma is to be a solid, themed, and relaxed album. And a posteriori is all of that. But I think making a sequel to that would be interesting, like a more polished up version of a posteriori.



There was something very unique about that album, i would have to agree with you guys about another album like A Posteriori. It is my second favorite album but not by much, A Posteriori was a totally amazing journey which i have a lot of awesome memories of and love how the album has such a solid theme. Who knows maybe Michael is preparing E8 A Priori, well maybe not but i think that would be awesome! :yahoo:


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heh :biggrin: we had A Priori released by music pirates I remember

A Posteriori 2 or whatever would be great but 7LMF 2 ... I don't want and hope MC doesnt feel like doing another album like this.

Voyagur style would be great too

considering how many troubles MC had lately I am sure it will be reflected in his music. the album will explore more personal and at the same time universal themes (but actually both E6 and E5 did this also as I understand them), because MC is a universal person with a absolute control of the nature and vibes he gets

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ENIGMA 8 will not be the end.
is the eighth chapter of this wonderful musical journey we and son Cretu Music
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PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 00:45 
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Man, I love all the love A Posteriori is getting on this forum. It truly is unique. I hate how its not respected, even by MC or the record label. I am furious that not one track could have been on the platinum collection. Goodbye Milky Way would have been great. I like the mood of it better than Hello and Welcome.lol. And a follow up to A Posteriori combined with Voyageur would be mindblowing. And A Posteriori was a very sad and empty album so him throwing his feelings and emotions into the music for E8 would be a great idea. I will never forget Why!


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LoveProfusion15 wrote:
Man, I love all the love A Posteriori is getting on this forum. It truly is unique. I hate how its not respected, even by MC or the record label. I am furious that not one track could have been on the platinum collection. Goodbye Milky Way would have been great. I like the mood of it better than Hello and Welcome.lol. And a follow up to A Posteriori combined with Voyageur would be mindblowing. And A Posteriori was a very sad and empty album so him throwing his feelings and emotions into the music for E8 would be a great idea.


I sooo agree with you here. Although I don't think that Mr. Cretu disrespects this album. I sure hope he doesn't, it's a remarkable creation of his.
And yeah, Goodbye Milky Way would have deserved so much more. No other songs are as sublime as this
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PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 23:37 
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Hey, guys you do seem to forget that AP was nominated for Grammy awards! So that should mean something, at least it is not underrated at all. I remember that AP was cursed by quite a lot of fans on the Enigma message board in late 2006-early 2007. BUT: that was normal, wasn't that the case for any other releases (especially E5 but also E7)?

I myself also consider AP as a huge favourite, I love the topic and the fact that Cretu sings and the energetic and higly layered tracks. But i do not praise that further as this is not the topic of the thread.

also agreed with that a combination of E5 and E6 would be a huge mindbend and delight :-)


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Wow, I didn't know A Posteriori was nominated for a grammy? Best new age? That's cool though. Why was there no promotion for the album though? Was it just not a commercial album? It had one single.lol.


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AP should have received more recognition in my opinion, the album was just so different and well crafted. I remember when i fist heard the sound clips for the album before it was released and i was completely infatuated. I'm really hoping that the next album Michael puts out is going to be something that makes me a believer again. :dontknow:


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Wow, I didn't know A Posteriori was nominated for a grammy? Best new age? That's cool though. Why was there no promotion for the album though? Was it just not a commercial album? It had one single.lol.
yes, that's right, it was supposed to take the best new age album for 2007. Yet, it was really not tha much commercialized, and according to Ilias, its sales were just half that of Voyageur. Also, the only single was hello and welcome, I think it is a scandal. Goodbye Milky way was not released just, if I know well, just electronically (?).


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Man, that's bs! A Posteriori has all my respect and is my favorite out of the last 3 albums. So beautiful and unique. And goodbye milky way would have been great. What singles would you guys choose for 3rd and 4th if you could? I would have to say Feel Me Heaven and Dreaming of Andromeda.lol.


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Man, that's bs! A Posteriori has all my respect and is my favorite out of the last 3 albums. So beautiful and unique. And goodbye milky way would have been great. What singles would you guys choose for 3rd and 4th if you could? I would have to say Feel Me Heaven and Dreaming of Andromeda.lol.
these two could have been singles indeed. Nevertheless, I prefer Sitting on the Moon to Dreaming of Andromeda. Also, Feel me heaven would have been the leading single if I had been the one to choose - probably a wise fusion together with Eppur si muove could have been perfect. This beats all tracks on AP.


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Omg, a leading single of Feel Me Heaven and Eppur Si Muove would be amazing. Eppur Si Muove is a fantastic opening track. Perfect mood and beat. And the vocals are non describable. So lovely. I do enjoy Sitting on the Moon but its kinda sad and if that's the case then I choose Invisible Love for a sad song. Great intro, kind of reminds me of the Dream of the Dolphin.


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graphene wrote:
oh, yeah....but let's hope he will not take any ideas from FIFA 2010...I mean the vuvuzela on Engima :-)


I dunno... From my perspective, Cretu and/or Vangelis are the only two alive musicians that could create something mesmerisingly beautiful, no matter how terribe the sound is. I would not discard ANY sound from being used by Mr. Alchemist.

Enigma will live as long as Mr. Cretu wants it to... With or without contracts, with or without record company or anything, Mr. Crety has repeatedly stated that once he feels Enigma has come to a no-forward point, that's it.


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